The November Flex is in the books, and Jon and Dave are here to walk you through it! In this episode they discuss all things November, including connection issues people faced (and recommended next steps), the first appearance and key content of the test’s various sections, moments of standout difficulty, and finally their expected curves for every possible exam combination.
Timestamps
0:00 – Intro. “Digital Witness” by St. Vincent soundtracks the last LSAT-Flex week of the year.
4:33 – This week in the LSAT world. In addition to the test this week, Dave and Jon provide updates on the upcoming Secrets Of The Law School Admissions Process webinar, our collaboration podcast with Spivey Admissions Consulting, the LSAT Writing process for the November LSAT, and registration for the January test.
The November LSAT Review
14:15 – Test numbers. Reports from LSAC on test-taker turnout for each of the available testing days.
16:52 – Test/Proctor U issues. A recap of the various technical issues we heard reported from students, including: getting booted out of the test randomly, ProctorU connection delays, incorrect information about retakes, and more.
33:40 – General student feedback/episode goals
36:48 – The Saturday tests review (11/7/20)
56:32 – The Sunday tests review (11/8/20)
1:01:12 – The Tuesday tests review (11/10/20)
1:08:47 – The Wednesday tests review (11/11/20)
1:10:36 – Scoring Scale predictions. After analyzing all possible section combinations that took place, Dave and Jon offer their scoring scale predictions for the various test configurations that could have been taken over the course of the week.
1:21:25 – Outro.
Dee says
LOL the lsat put a virus on my mac and I had to replace it that week. Fingers crossed on a good score so that grand was worth it!
Jessica J says
Thank you so much, your podcast has been super helpful during my law school application process! I was hoping you could help clarify a question for me about standardized testing.
If you would prefer to apply to a school with your LSAT score, but they require you to report all past GRE scores as well, how heavily do they weigh the two tests? For example, if you have a great LSAT but a poor GRE, could this hurt your admission chances? And should you submit an addendum in this case?
Dee says
i have taken the flex 4 times, each time experiencing technical problems and disconnections from the exam resulting in 2 cancelled test and 2 retakes
most proctors will not help you at all, unless they have an intervention specialist or advocate contact both you and lsac to rectify the technical problems affecting your exam
9.9/10 proctor u will tell you they cant do anything and to call lsac
this claim is completely false
they CHOOSE not to help and direct you to LSAC as it requires the least amount of proctor u’s effort
however, as is often the case, one can have trouble reaching lsac by phone in real time during peak testing periods or registration deadlines.
PROCTOR U HAS THE ABILITY AND AUTHORITY TO RECTIFY SITUATIONS INVOLVING LAWHUB’s technical problems AND THEIR OWN, DONT LET THEM CONVINCE YOU OTHERWISE
KEEP CALLING PROCTOR U’s TOLL FREE NUMBER
after exam would not reconnect, I called ProctorU FROM 3:35 AM UNTIL 12:30 PM OF CONTINUALLY CALLING PROCTOR U BEFORE I REACHED SOMEONE WILLING TO HELP AND WITH THE AUTHORITY TO DO SO
I had completed my exam, and got disconnected before the last section reached 0:00
i could not reconnect and proctor u would not help with any supportive communication to lsac on my behalf
EXCEPT FOR:
ProctorU’S Leader of Manager Operations who has the authority to use their discretion in applying lsac policies, has emergency communication access to lsac during non business hours, and is entitled to make decisions regarding rectifying issues resulting from exam technical difficulties with LSAC LawHub or any other issues that negatively affected your test or were left unresolved by other proctor u ‘help desk’ ‘live chat’ employees or proctors, by requesting and receiving explicit consent for problems to be resolved, which they are able to do 24/7.
If you have an issue with lsac requiring proctor u’s support or if you need proctor u to correct an LSAC Exam error that affected your test KEEP CALLING PROCTOR U UNTIL YOU SPEAK TO ‘JE’ (prounounced ‘jee’)
DONT GIVE UP UNTIL YOU REACH JE
JE WILL FIX ANY LEGITIMATE CONCERNS RESULTING FROM TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES THAT IMPACTED YOUR SCORE
CALL PROCTOR U 1 (855) 772-8678 UNTIL YOU REACH ‘JE’
SHE WILL SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS IN 1 PHONE CALL
the lsat flex is murphy’s law on steroids
i’ve had both very good help and extremely awful service from Proctor U
Tracey says
Thank you for your podcast. You gave me some relief. My testing experience was horrible. I was scheduled for Sunday, 11/8 just to be rescheduled for Tuesday, 11/10. I freaked out both times because I kept getting kicked out. ProctorU was horrible.
jerrymetzger says
Hey Jon and Dave,
How many am I allowed to get wrong in order to get a 165? My test was -8 according to your evaluation.
Sohaima says
Hi! I think your podcast missed an LR section, the one about ghost photographers, crystals and rubies
Nolan says
I also had this section! I remember having a question about a robot diagnosing a car with measles
Jon Denning says
Thanks Sohaima and Nolan! We’ve added that to our notes. It sounds like it may have snuck into the mix somewhat quietly on Tuesday or Wednesday, but if you let me know when you tested it’ll help us pinpoint the first appearance more precisely.
In reviewing what people have mentioned about that section, we believe it closely approximates the difficulty of the other LR we covered, and thus won’t have any appreciable effect up or down on the scale prediction (so you’ll stay -8 or -9 depending on your RC and LG combo)!
Ebethaliz says
I had that section on Sunday
Sohaima says
I had it on Wednesday morning!
Nolan says
I had it Sunday afternoon
Rachel says
Your podcast brought a huge weight off my chest!
I was supposed to write the Wednesday LSAT but couldn’t even get past the systems check. I panicked and clung to ProctorU trying to solve the issue for 3 hours and they couldn’t help at all saying it was something on my end. I rechecked my device and called my internet provider and they said it was more than sufficient for the ProctorU system requirements. I honestly thought I was the only one!