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November 18, 2019

Why is My LSAC GPA Different from My Transcript GPA?

Why is My LSAC GPA Different from My Transcript GPA?

One of the steps to getting your law school applications ready is sending LSAC your college transcript(s) for processing. They take your transcripts, convert your grades to a 4.0 scale, and calculate an overall GPA for you. This is your “LSAC GPA”. To the surprise of some students, their LSAC GPA is different from their transcript GPA. Not necessarily in a good way, either. But, why is that the case?

Let’s Talk Basics

  • You have to submit transcripts from all undergraduate institutions you have attended. No exceptions. It doesn’t matter if you didn’t graduate from one of them or if one is from a college course you took in high school. You submit all of them.
  • LSAC does not calculate a “major” GPA. If you want admissions officers to be aware of that number, you need to point it out yourself. The best place to do that is on your résumé.
  • If your grades are reported on a 0-100 scale, or an A-F scale, they will be converted to a 4.0 scale. This is the scale LSAC uses to convert them and it can be confusing. However, they don’t change the grades themselves. Admissions officers are aware of this conversion, so it doesn’t affect you negatively.

With that being said, let’s examine the last part about the grades themselves not changing. This is why some students have a lower LSAC GPA than their transcripts. It’s not that LSAC changes your grades, it boils down to what LSAC chooses to add into your GPA that your school may not.

From the LSAC website:

Any grade notation that signifies failure (such as No Credit, No Credit/Fail, Not Passing, Incomplete/Fail, Withdraw/Fail, Unsatisfactory, Fail, etc.) is converted to zero on the 4.0 scale and is included in the calculation of the GPA, even if the issuing school considers the grade to be nonpunitive. Failure is defined as credit attempted but not earned. […] Incomplete and Withdraw grades considered punitive by the issuing school will be included in the conversion. The only exception to this policy is for No Credit, Withdraw/Fail, repeated courses, and incomplete grades specifically explained in Grades Excluded From Conversion.

All grades and credits earned for repeated courses will be included in the GPA calculation if the course units and grades appear on the transcript. A line drawn through course information or a grade does not eliminate the course from GPA calculation if the course units appear on the transcript.

But, What Does That Mean?

So what does this mean in plain English? Even if your school doesn’t count a failing grade into your overall GPA, LSAC may count it as a 0.0. This is particularly relevant if you failed a class and repeated it to have the failing grade “replaced”. Unless the grade was completely taken off your record, LSAC will count it in their calculations. They count grades even if your school “removes” them from your transcript by striking them out. If the grade is there and the number of units you attempted or earned is next to it, LSAC includes it. These repeated/removed classes are what trips up students. Oftentimes, a school will “replace” a grade with the passing repeat-grade, but don’t remove the first attempt from the transcript. Technically, the school doesn’t count it, but if LSAC sees it, they do.

How Do You Know?

Be careful when considering courses you’ve withdrawn from! If your school considers the withdrawal non-punitive, then it won’t factor in your LSAC GPA. If they do consider it punitive, then LSAC sees it as a 0.0. The easiest ways to tell if it is punitive is if another letter accompanies a “W”:

  • WF = Withdraw/Fail
  • WU = Withdrew Unsatisfactory
  • WNP = Withdraw Not Passing

This is according to the LSAC website, although it’s not always the case. We recommend contacting LSAC to get their take on your particular case.

Should You Worry About Your Transcript?

Unless you have a considerable number of punitive repeat/incomplete classes on your transcript, then the difference shouldn’t be significant. The vast majority of applicants don’t have this issue and if there is a difference, it’s often a tenth of a point or less. However, we understand that even a tenth of a point causes stress, particularly if you don’t know why it happened. That’s why it’s important to make sure to keep your nose clean during your academic career! Make an effort to be very aware of exactly what’s showing up on your transcript.

Before submitting your transcript to LSAC, order one for yourself and analyze it. Doing this offers the chance to avoid having a heart attack when you get your converted LSAC GPA! To read all of LSAC’s policies on grade conversion, go to the LSAC website. Of course, if you have any questions about how a certain grade may be converted in your transcript, contact LSAC. They’re the authorities and will give you the final word on how you can expect things to go.

Wondering what your transcript says about you to the law schools you’re applying to? Head on over to this post.

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  • Clara Ryu
    June 16, 2014 at 6:35am

    Hi, if our transcripts show numerical grades, but our school has its own conversion scale to change it to the letter grades, will LSAC still use their own chart? The conversions from marks in the 80s to the 4.0 scale seems really cruel. Thanks a lot!

  • Frazer Sloan
    July 10, 2014 at 11:31pm

    Hello,

    I found your LSAC GPA conversion breakdown very helpful. I had one question in regard to my case, unfortunately LSAC basically just told me to sent in my transcripts.

    I withdrew from one class in my freshman year because I changed majors and simply didn’t need it anymore. It was done before the withdrawal deadline so my school did not factor it into my GPA, and it simply shows up as a W on my transcript. The only other information provided for that grade is 0 credits and 0 points earned. Nowhere does it mention how many were attempted or what the class would have been worth. Do you think LSAC will consider that non-punative because they dont even have the information on how many credit were attempted?

    Also, as a general rule of thumb, if the class was simply withdrawn from, rather than withdrawn due to failure, are you normally ok?

    Your thoughts?

  • Ron Gore
    August 05, 2014 at 12:25am

    Hi Frazer,

    Based on your description of your transcript, that it shows only a “W” and “0 credits” attempted, LSAC will not treat it as punitive. This link explains the policy in greater detail: http://www.lsac.org/aboutlsac/policies/transcript-summarization

    Thanks, and good luck!

  • Ron Gore
    August 05, 2014 at 1:13am

    Hi Clara,

    If your school is an LSAC-member school, then your school’s system is already compatible with how LSAC computes GPA. If your school isn’t an LSAC-member school, then LSAC will convert the grade according to its formula, but will include the transcript for context. This link provides all of LSAC’s policies on the topic: http://www.lsac.org/aboutlsac/policies/transcript-summarization

    This is one of the reasons why I’m glad LSAT scores account for as much as 80% of your application. Rock the LSAT and the GPA barely matters.

    Good luck!

  • Sasha Choi
    August 06, 2014 at 7:58am

    I have a trouble to estimate my converted gpa because of school grading system and transferred history. Because of my interest change, i spent just one semester in one of renowned university, but ruined the grade… Totally didnt have any idea they will affect my future concern.
    I moved to the most famous art school in us, and interestingly, they just provide pass or fail grade and i could complete in a very successful with the high level classes..
    There was no plan until i begin my study of master in the best university (now abroad) for international studies.. that would like to apply for the law school to strengthen my interest of patent or copyright internationally, especially art or culture related.. I have very good support to explain my want, but afraid if the undergrad gpa would worse my opportunity..
    How this could be reflected?

  • Ron Gore
    August 06, 2014 at 4:01pm

    Hi Sahsa,

    Unfortunately, Pass/Fail grades are excluded from LSAC’s conversion because they don’t have a way to assign an accurate numerical value to the grade. And graduate grades are not included, only undergraduate grades. So, based on what you’re telling me, the undergraduate grades from your first school will be the only grades assigned a numerical value, although the Pass/Fail grades will be reported as unconverted credits.

    However, there are a few positives in your favor. First, the fact that you attended such a prestigious school will work in your favor. Also, the schools will have the ability to see your later undergraduate history, which will add important context. Finally, you have the ability to explain your poor performance at your first school, and should take the opportunity to do so in your personal statement. In fact, the arc of your educational history and your life experience could provide the structure for a powerful essay.

    Finally, always keep in mind the relative importance of the LSAT on the admissions decision. If you do very well on the LSAT, the schools will focus more on that positive than on the negative of your first undergraduate year grades.

    Thanks for posting, and best wishes.

  • Shalev
    November 25, 2017 at 11:28pm

    Thanks for the helpful info!

    Do you have any further resources clarifying what exactly is meant by an undergraduate institution?

    I participated in a 1-year gap program at a music conservatory in Israel. The conservatory is unaccredited by the Israeli Ministration of Education as it only offers music courses. Would I have to submit my transcript from this institution?

    Thanks!

  • Shalev
    November 25, 2017 at 11:31pm

    Another question.

    I took a graduate seminar for credit towards by BA. Am I wrong in assuming that that grade would be counted by LSAC?

    Thanks!

  • Dave Killoran
    November 27, 2017 at 5:35pm

    Hi Shalev,

    No, you are not wrong—LSAC will count that grade.

    Thanks!

  • Dave Killoran
    November 27, 2017 at 6:51pm

    Hi Shalev,

    This is a tough question to answer since it is so program-specific. My understanding of LSAC policies suggests that you wouldn’t have to have this sent if your degree ultimately comes from a US school, but as always, that is an opinion and NOT a definitive factual judgment. For that, you need to speak directly with LSAC.

    They outline their policies at https://www.lsac.org/jd/applying-to-law-school/cas/requesting-transcripts and https://www.lsac.org/jd/applying-to-law-school/international-transcripts, and the second page notes the following:

    “Do NOT have a transcript sent from an international institution IF your bachelor’s degree is from a US, US territory/associated state, or Canadian school, and…

    …the total amount of work you completed at all international institutions combined is equal to or less than the equivalent of one year of undergraduate study in the United States, its territories/associated states, or Canada”

    That seems to clearly suggest that it’s not required in this case. However, why not get LSAC on the phone and ask them directly. They might have a pre-bias to simply say send it, but then at least you’ll know for certain what the right decision is.

    Thanks and please let me know what they say!

  • Javed
    December 04, 2017 at 11:38pm

    Thank you for this very helpful piece. So I just wanted to make one thing clear. During my undergrad I withdrew from one course as I realized that I’d overloaded my schedule for that semester and admittedly because I didn’t do too hot on the first test (later went on to take that course again and do okay). This was completely allowed at my institution and is listed as a W on the transcript although it does show it as a 4 credit course. This was certainly NOT a punitive withdrawal such as would be in the case of being caught cheating or something similar. So would you agree that this would not be counted in the calculation as I’m hoping? I feel like given the rules listed above it shouldn’t be. How would you advise contacting LSAC to further clarify that this was a non-punitive withdrawal. If needed I imagine I can get a written affirmation from my school’s registrar.

    Thank you very much for your assistance it is greatly appreciated.

  • Dave Killoran
    December 06, 2017 at 4:49pm

    Hi Javed,

    Thanks for the question! If the SCHOOL considers the withdrawal non-punitive, then LSAC will exclude the grade. that is the arbiter here, and there’s more info at: https://www.lsac.org/aboutlsac/policies/transcript-summarization.

    As for contacting them, you can call or email them, and be specific. Tell them you received a W at your university (name it for them), and you want to know how they will handle it. If you can supply any evidence that it was non-punitive, do so.

    My overall feeling is that this will be excluded, but only LSAC can say for sure. Good luck!

  • Alanna Thompson
    January 03, 2018 at 4:24pm

    I go to the University of Toronto (Canada) and have a CGPA of 3.99. However, on LSAC it has my gpa as only 3.95. What would be the reason for this? I worked hard to achieve a 4.0 (fell one class short lol) so that I would be a competitive candidate for law school and the fact that my correct gpa is not showing is upsetting. Is this an error that I should contact LSAC for, or is there another explanation?

  • Jon Denning
    January 03, 2018 at 7:23pm

    Hi Alanna – thanks for the question, and congrats on your outstanding GPA! I’ll make two comments about your situation.

    First, and hopefully as a relief, there’s essentially zero meaningful difference between a 3.99 and 3.95 GPA in the eyes of law schools, so if you’re worried that the 0.04 hit might negatively affect your admissions odds you needn’t be 🙂 Schools don’t take such tiny variances into consideration when making admit decisions.

    That said, it’s still annoying to see your hard work not fully reflected in your LSAC GPA, and you’re justified in wondering what’s going on. So your best bet is to contact LSAC directly and inquire! You may find that they have a clear-cut reason for the adjustment, or even that they’ve made a mistake (!), but without asking them it’s hard for me, or anyone, to speculate on the discrepancy. They’ve reopened now after their holiday break, so you should be able to just call them up and inquire. I suspect they’ll be able to explain their process and clear things up!

    Hope that helps, and if you do get a clarification and want to post a follow up here I’m sure there are other readers who’d find that info useful!

  • Angela Lynch
    January 20, 2018 at 3:06am

    I first want to say how thankful I have found this webpage. Regardless the outcome, the information on this page is very well presented and organized. I appreciate that you all have taken the considerable time to inform others with your expertise in the area.

    When I first read the fine print regarding the GPA calculation by LSAC I pretty much knew that my GPA would be impacted significantly. In my first year of college I did not perform well and I have a series of courses that I have since retaken. However, I know they will clearly be stated to have been attempted by my undergraduate institution. I was wondering if it was still permissible to put my institutions punitive GPA as calculated without the series of failed courses. In the last 2.5 years of my undergraduate, I have performed well carrying a greater amount of A’s and B’s the D’s or F’s which has greatly improved my GPA and allowed me to climb almost an entire point. This is the GPA I would like to have considered, not the standardized and washed GPA calculated by the LSAC. I have read on other pages that people provide their institutional GPA on their resume and application, is this a safe, effective and permissible practice to your knowledge?

    Again, regardless the outcome I really appreciate your good samaritism to aid those without answers!

  • Dave Killoran
    January 20, 2018 at 9:17pm

    Hi Angela,

    Thanks so much for the kind words, and we really appreciate hearing them! In your situation, for law school apps you should state both GPAs–your school and LSAC’s–on your resume. there’s no issue there. And, given that the two might be significantly different, you should strongly consider also writing an addendum about your GPA. Schools will read that and at the least it helps explain the discrepancy they see.

    While those steps above at least indicate that the LSAC number is different, it won’t have a huge impact. Schools must report the LSAC GPA to the ABA, and so that is the one they ultimately rely on when making decisions. Your addendum simply helps in cases that are close or borderline.

    I personally hate how CAS computes GPAs, but obviously it is not within our control, and they’ve been doing this for years 🙁

    I hope this helps. Thanks!

  • David ko
    May 11, 2018 at 8:26pm

    Thanks for the information!

    I still have questions about repeated courses. I took a linear algebra class sophomore year and I received a D in that class. However, I retook the class and then received an A. You stated that ” Unless the grade was completely taken off your record (or if only the grade is shown on your transcript and not the number of units you attempted), then it will be counted in. ” My college will show the original grade, but it will not be factored into my college GPA. Moreover, the credit hours for the original course will be shown as 0 and there is no credit attempted section in my transcript so the original course will only show 0 credit hour and that’s it. Does that mean LSAC would include my original grade in their GPA conversion? Thank You Very Much!

  • Dave Killoran
    May 14, 2018 at 4:53pm

    Hi David,

    Thanks for the question. This is a long-standing issue with LSAC, and the policy they have is crystal clear: it doesn’t matter what your college does, LSAC WILL include the D and the A in your calculations.

    I personally hate the way they do this, but it’s been this way for years and years now, and there are no exemptions or other workarounds. If your college shows the grade, it gets calculated regardless of how well you did on the retake.

    I’m sorry 🙁

  • becca
    December 31, 2018 at 6:08am

    If I were to get a second bachelor’s would the courses from my first bachelor’s and second bachelor’s be combined? In addition, in light of many recent changes LSAC is implementing with the LSAT, do you foresee their GPA calculation procedures to change in the near future also? Thank you!

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