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August 29, 2018

U.S. News Interview with PowerScore: GPA & Law School Admissions

U.S. News Interview with PowerScore

Dave Killoran and Jon Denning from PowerScore were featured in an article by U.S. News detailing how a student’s undergrad GPA factors into their law school admissions chances. You can read this incredibly informative article that also includes insight from some of our peers here. Below we have included the full interview transcript with Dave and Jon that goes even further in-depth on how law schools evaluate undergrad transcripts, how to compensate for a lower GPA, and more!

U.S. News: Why is it that at top-20 law schools, the average GPA of incoming students is close to a 4.0?

Dave Killoran: “This is the result of the selectivity of the Top 20 law schools combined with long-term grade inflation at undergraduate universities. You have more students than ever with higher GPAs, and law schools that are ranked partially on average GPA. They have a very high incentive to accept as many high-GPA students as possible. Add in relatively small class sizes, and you end up with very high average GPAs.”

U.S. News: How much do GPAs matter in the JD admissions process?

Dave Killoran: “They matter quite a bit. Along with your LSAT score, they are one of the two biggest factors in your application. GPAs are attractive because they provide a hard number that law schools can track and control via who they admit, and because they allow admissions officers to instantly compare GPAs between students. That is not so easily done for extracurriculars or career achievements. In short, law schools love a standardized, universal metric when evaluating applicants.”

U.S. News: Do law school admissions officers look at GPAs differently depending on student’s college major or undergraduate institution?

Dave Killoran: “Certainly, although perhaps less so than most people would think. Some majors are more desirable for law school whereas other majors are not held in very high esteem, so that can have an effect. And in some cases, a law school might have a good or bad history with graduates from a particular school. This can affect how they evaluate applicants from those colleges.”

U.S. News: Can someone compensate for a less-than-stellar GPA through an amazing standardized test score or impressive essays and/or work experience?

Dave Killoran: “Yes, without question. There is a long history of students using LSAT scores to compensate for lower GPAs. Students with low-GPA/high-LSAT credentials are called Splitters. Law schools can use these applicants to fill gaps in their applicant pool, and boost numbers as needed.”

U.S. News: How do law schools evaluate college transcripts – do they care about the types of classes someone takes, i.e. the topics and rigor of those courses?

Jon Denning: “Yes, law schools actually have a fairly limited amount of information about each candidate. That is especially true when you consider that they are entering into a three-year commitment with each person. Student successes and failures are a direct reflection on the school itself. So, they will look at undergrad major, classes taken, grade trends, and general performance to get insight into the type of student they are evaluating.”

U.S. News: What would you tell an ambitious law school applicant who was wondering whether their GPA was high enough for them to get into a top law school?

Jon Denning: Your GPA is only one factor in your application. You will be evaluated on the entirety of what you submit. So strive to make every element as strong as possible. Also, do your research. Take a look at the various medians at each school—that information can help tell you how realistic your chances are when you apply.

Finally, and as we often stress, undergraduate GPA is typically the most fixed application element for students in their senior year (or beyond). So if that number is below the median at a target school it becomes all the more critical that other, less pre-determined factors—the LSAT above all—are as impressive as possible. An exceptional four hours in a testing room can outweigh four less-than-stellar years in college. So it’s never too late to drastically improve your admissions odds with a top LSAT score!”

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Posted by PowerScore Test Prep / Law School Admissions / GPA, Law School Admissions 3 Comments

  • JAMIE PARTUSCH
    August 29, 2018 at 5:27pm

    Factors?

  • Dave Killoran
    August 29, 2018 at 6:06pm

    If I’m understanding your comment correct, yes, that usage is correct, and in this context means “figures in” or “plays a role in.”

    If I misunderstood you, just let me know. Thanks!

  • Valerie
    September 13, 2018 at 10:26am

    If someone has a Master’s degree that was received 10 years out of college, will law schools look at undergrad GPA, graduate school, or both?

  • Jon Denning
    September 13, 2018 at 9:13pm

    Hi Valerie – thanks for the question! Schools will still see that later transcript/GPA, but typically only your undergrad GPA matters when it comes to admissions decisions. That is, it certainly won’t hurt to have a great master’s GPA, but since undergrad GPAs are the only thing every applicant will have, and since only undergrad GPAs factor into school rankings, it’s your college performance that schools consider (usually exclusively).

  • Sarah
    November 13, 2018 at 5:35pm

    What about the other way around? Can a very high GPA outweigh a less-than-amazing LSAT score?

  • Jon Denning
    November 13, 2018 at 7:00pm

    Hi Sarah – thanks for posting!

    This question comes up a fair amount when we talk about splitters and reverse splitters (Dave wrote a great article on those) and, regrettably, in virtually every instance LSAT score is more important to schools than GPA, so while a great LSAT can largely/entirely offset a poor GPA, the reverse is far less likely to be the case: a GPA above a school’s 75th precentile helps, no doubt, but it won’t do nearly as much to boost an applicant’s chances as an LSAT score above the 75th percentile.

    There are a number of reasons for that weighting, from GPA inflation/variances at undergrad institutions (making GPA a less reliable comparative tool) and the fact that the LSAT is the only common stat all applicants share, to how school rankings are computed, to what schools feel is a better success predictor (a lot of places say LSAT > GPA), but ultimately LSAT gets top billing, sometimes by a factor of three or four times the importance of GPA.

    But check out Dave’s article I linked above; it has some great insights and advice for people in all camps 🙂

Comments

  1. Peter says

    August 12, 2020 at 2:59 pm

    Hello,

    Thanks for another informative interview/article!

    I was wondering if you all had any experience with applicants who have attended service academies. I was at USMA for two years and finished my undergrad at a state school. Do admissions committees take into account the lower thresholds for Dean’s list/academic honors at service academies due to the rigor of the overall programs? I managed to make the Dean’s list for several semesters at both institutions but my gpa at USMA was significantly lower than the school where I earned my degree. I’m thinking of including a short GPA addendum to bring the difference in standards to the attention of admissions committees that review my application.

    Thanks!

    Reply
    • PowerScore Test Prep says

      August 14, 2020 at 9:02 am

      Hi Peter,

      Thank you for your comment! We believe that your undergraduate institution really doesn’t hold that much weight (if any) during the law school admissions process. Where you come from doesn’t matter as much as how you did when you were there. Please keep in mind that the most important components of your law school application will be your undergraduate GPA and LSAT score. While you attended two institutions, LSAC calculates your entire undergraduate GPA into a straightforward number to put into their index to determine how you stack up against other applicants.

      Now speaking of an addendum, if you’re interested in including an addendum in your application, consider taking a look at our blog here first: What’s the Deal with Addenda?.

      Lastly, feel free to utilize one of our favorite resources for researching data on nearly all of the ABA-approved schools in North America: LSAC’s LSAT/GPA Calculator. This tool allows you to input your undergraduate GPA and your highest LSAT score (or a score you’re realistically aiming for), and get feedback on where each stands relative to attendees at individual schools, as well as your likely odds of duplicating that result on those figures.

      Thank you!

      Reply
    • Dave Killoran says

      August 21, 2020 at 2:35 pm

      Hi Peter,

      Just to add to the prior comment, in your case I would definitely write an addendum discussing the difficulty differences. Adcomms will be cognizant of the difficulty differences but a reminder never hurts! This is especially key since LSAC won’t process difficulty when processing your CAS GPA.

      Thanks!

      Reply

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