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May 18, 2020

How Hard is the LSAT?

How Hard is the LSAT?

One of the most frequently asked questions we receive is, “How hard is the LSAT?” Most students have heard the test is difficult, but unless they’ve taken an LSAT already, they don’t have a good idea of whether the test really is hard, or whether it’s just like any other college test. Let’s take a look at some numbers and see what the real story is here.

LSAT Scoring Scale

First, we have to understand the scores that are produced by the test, because those scores help us measure difficulty. Our LSAT Scoring Scale discussion explains how the 120 to 180 scoring scale works. The key discussion points relate to how many questions you can miss to achieve certain scores, as well as what percentile is represented by each score.

Let’s start by looking at the number of people who score a 180, which is a perfect score. In theory, the easier the test, the higher the number of perfect scores. Think about what would happen if you gave a very basic, first grade level spelling test to a group of college-educated adults. For example, a test that included words like “cat” and “dog.” That should be pretty easy (right?), and you’d expect a large number of perfect scores! On the other hand, if you gave an advanced calculus test to fourth graders, it would be pretty amazing (inhuman, almost) to see even one perfect score. The easier the test relative to the test takers, the more perfect scores you should see.

With the LSAT, the percentile for a 180 is 99.97%. Thus, in numerical terms, if you have a 180, then in a room of 10,000 people you have one of the three highest scores. With roughly 100,000 LSATs administered in the past year, that would suggest that about 30 people received a perfect score. When only 30 people achieve this score out of 100,000 test takers, the inference is that this is a very, very difficult exam!

Achieving a 180 is also interesting in that to do so does not require perfection. That is, you don’t have to answer all of the questions correctly in order to receive a 180. This page contains a brief overview of scoring scales for the LSATs from June 2005 to the present. It demonstrates that to get a 180, you can, on average, miss around 2 to 3 questions per test. To produce a 3-in-10,000 score, you don’t have to be perfect; you can miss a few questions and still make it happen.

The 170

Next, let’s focus on a score of 170, which is a highly desirable LSAT score. It’s a score that almost every LSAT taker would be thrilled to receive. A 170 represents a percentile of 97.4%. This means that test takers with a score of 170 have a score higher than 97.4% of all LSAT takers. That’s pretty good! But what does it take to achieve that score?

On the September 2018 LSAT, you would have to answer at least 89 of 101 questions to receive a 170. In other words, you can miss 12 questions, and still be above 97.4% of testers. Alternately, you can miss 11.88% of the questions but still be in the top 2.5% of scores. Considered alone, this suggests you have some latitude in missing LSAT questions while still achieving a high score. That by itself is a sign of the difficulty of the test. To bring the point home, let’s compare it to a grading scale you’re probably familiar with: scales used in college.

At most colleges, getting 89 out of 100 on a test, means you’d be looking at a B+ or B. That’s certainly a solid grade, but it isn’t one that is considered outstanding or highly desirable. In contrast, getting 89 right on the LSAT results in a score that is considered highly desirable. This too indicates that the LSAT is, in general, a very difficult test.

LSAC’s Guessing Policy

The final piece of evidence regarding test difficulty relates to the guessing policy enforced by LSAC. Unlike many other standardized tests, there is no guessing penalty on the LSAT. In fact, we strongly encourage you to guess on questions you cannot finish. There’s no penalty for missing a question; if you guess correctly, you receive full credit. Think about that for a second, because what it suggests is that this test is so hard that the test makers don’t even care if you guess; they don’t think it will materially change your score! Their view is that even someone who performs extremely well on the questions they do answer will still not be able to blindly guess their way to a very different score.

The conclusion in all of this is that yes indeed, the LSAT is a very hard test. From any objective measure, it’s a challenge to score well on this exam. But there is good news here because in difficulty lies opportunity! The LSAT is a learnable test, and you can improve your performance by studying and preparing properly. Why is that? Because this is a standardized test, and you can learn about the standards and protocols used in the making of the test. The LSAT will always be difficult, but you can improve, and each point you move up takes you above more and more of your fellow test takers. And you don’t have to be anywhere near perfect to do very well.

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Posted by Dave Killoran / LSAT Prep / LSAT Prep, LSAT Score, Scoring Scale 15 Comments

  • Pina Brunetto
    October 17, 2016 at 8:58pm

    Hi
    I am thinking about going to university for the first time as an adult student. I have been a stay at home mom for the past 20 years. I have always been interested in law.
    I am afraid I am setting myself up for disappointed since so much as changed from when I was in Highschool…. especially how everything is done by computers and on line.
    How realistic is it for me to even consider, with some courses and hard work to write the lsats and pass??

  • Jay
    October 19, 2016 at 12:39am

    Hi Pina,

    Thanks for the post. In my opinion, nothing is impossible, especially if preparation is done correctly: consider the recent NBA Finals, in the history of the NBA finals, what happened this year seemed impossible (and most people believed it, unless you lived in Cleveland…)
    I won’t go to in-depth in it. You have a few things to consider before even thinking about the lsat.
    But if you’re committed to law school at such an early stage, then you have a heard start then most. There is pre-law and there is philosophy and there is mathematics– all these courses/majors will prepare you for law school. WHen it comes to prepping for the lsat, consider that this site is a prep. resources; powerscore is one of the best published and online resource. If you can afford personal help, One on One is the best, then there is short study, classroom etc.. In the end, its very realistic, its all about how much TIME you put in. And it’s mot a pass fail test, its how high you can score!

  • Jun
    August 15, 2017 at 2:34pm

    Hello, I will become a high school junior this fall, and I and very interested on being a lawyer in Michigan. Would you please tell me what kind of activities (certain clubs, volunteer activities, etc.) I can currently do to increase my chances of building my career?

  • Dave Killoran
    August 15, 2017 at 5:53pm

    Hi Jun,

    Thanks for the question! I’m glad you asked about this because this is a commonly misunderstood point. Here are a few thoughts about extracurriculars (and this applies to both undergrad and grad school application):

    1. Colleges don’t much care what the activity is that you spend time on, they just want to see that you were committed to it. So, that might be playing a musical instrument or being in a political science club or volunteering.

    2. Colleges want to see a deep interest in one or two areas, not a wide but shallow set of activities. For example, someone who volunteers a little and is a member of one or two clubs looks like a dabbler. sure, they do many different things, but they don’t go deeply into any one of them. They are a participant, not a leader. Compare that to someone who plays an instrument, is in the school jazz band, plays in put orchestra every term, and who is the VP of music club. That is someone who is showing more commitment to a single area and showing more than just mere participation. Which of those two students is more likely to go on and do something special with their area of interest? that’s right, the one committed to a single area. colleges know that too, and they are looking for difference-makers. Don’t be just a participant, be more deeply involved and make a difference.

    3. The key for you is to develop a set of activities that truly interest YOU, because that will make you more likely to participate in them. So, that might be model airplane building or marching band–the activity doesn’t much matter, how deeply you participate in it does.

    Please let me know if that helps. And good luck!

  • Aswin Anil
    September 21, 2017 at 2:16pm

    Hi Dave
    I’m a second year Computer Engineering student from India. 2 years into this course has made me realize that this is just not my field of interest anymore. Seeing my strengths and weaknesses, I made the decision that pursuing a legal profession abroad would be the best challenge for me.(although honestly, it all seems too late since I’m halfway through undergrad school) Could you tell me some tips for international students like me to prepare for the LSAT. And how to continue pursuing my current course(which sees dwindling interest from me) while concentrating on preparing for my legal studies.

  • Dave Killoran
    September 21, 2017 at 4:24pm

    Hi Aswin,

    Thanks for the message! If you have an interest in attending law school here in the US, you really want to focus on two things: maintaining the best grades possible in your current course of study (or any new course of study you might choose) and then to begin preparing for the LSAT in a slow, systematic way.

    No matter what course of study you take, US law schools will consider you as an applicant. So, you could be a Computer Engineering major, or any major, and you will have a fair shot. they will want to see solid grades in school, however.

    Because your grades won’t be as clear to them as from a student at a US undergraduate school, your LSAT score will be *very* important. You need to maximize your score on the test since that will ease any concerns the law school has about your ability to complete the course of study. So, the best advice I can give you is to start studying NOW for the exam! Here are some links that might help:

    How can I prepare for the LSAT?:
    https://www.powerscore.com/lsat/help/about/#prepare

    PowerScore’s Self Study Webinar:
    https://player.vimeo.com/video/232865046

    PowerScore Self-Study Site and Study Plans:
    http://students.powerscore.com/self-study/index.cfm

    The PowerScore LSAT Course: Live Online and On Demand:
    https://www.powerscore.com/lsat/courses/

    That’s a start, and your focus should be on raising your GPA and cracking the LSAT. Good luck!

  • Kimberly Campbell
    September 26, 2017 at 2:28am

    I would like to apply to Gonzaga accelerated JD program. My undergrad is from UCLA and i was an average student. But I am older and have a lot of work experience but i know those UCLA transcripts are very important. I need to do VERY well on LSAT and would like to start preparing in November.

  • Dave Killoran
    September 26, 2017 at 4:25pm

    Hi Kimberly,

    Thanks for the message! You are right about your transcripts and LSAT both being very important. The LSAT typically outweighs the your GPA by about 2-3 times, but for older students it carries even more weight. But, that’s also a blessing because it means that a high LSAT score can erase an average college performance.

    Given that you’ve been out of school for a while and that your LSAT score is critical, I’d recommend that you take our LSAT course (https://www.powerscore.com/lsat/courses/), preferably an In Person or Live Online class so you can speak to live instructors and also rely on the regularity of the schedule to get back into study mode after being out of it for so long. If you are starting in November, are you looking at the February or June LSAT?

    Please let me know your thoughts, as well as any questions you might have. Thanks!

  • Sumeru
    December 10, 2017 at 12:17pm

    Hi Dave,

    I have found your article very interesting and timely as I wish to pursue law in Canada after being self-employed in India as a businessman for the past 10 years. My decision to pursue law as a career comes from an urge to take up a noble profession. I would like to start preparing for LSAT in a couple of weeks.

    Having applied and positively expecting a Canadian invitation for permanent residency, I would like to know if it is feasible to take up part-time JD (4 years) and gain the competency and employment opportunities of a full-time law graduate. Secondly, I have WES certificates for my bachelor’s in commerce. How would the GPA-LSAT combination work since we aren’t given a GPA in Indian colleges?

  • Dave Killoran
    December 10, 2017 at 7:15pm

    Hi Sumeru,

    Thanks for the questions! Let’s talk about your two main points here:

    1. Part-time Canadian Law Programs: Yes, there are some Canadian law schools that have part-time programs, but it is not as common as in the US. Your choices will depend on where you live and which school you attend. For example:

    Queen’s University: https://law.queensu.ca/jd-studies/academic-programs/part-time-jd

    University of Toronto: https://www.law.utoronto.ca/admissions/jd-admissions/half-time-program

    You’ll need to look at each school that interests you and make a determination there.

    2. International GPA Calculation: I can’t be certain how this will be handled. It is likely that CAS will request your transcripts directly from your institution in India. that said, certain Canadian schools require the WES, so it’s good you have that already. Because the policies are so varied, the only way to know is to start the application process and see what the school says. CAS is clear that if the school requires it,they will require your transcripts be sent: https://www.lsac.org/jd/applying-to-law-school/international-transcripts.

    So, that will depend on the schools you apply to!

    Please let me know if this helps. Thanks!

  • Sumeru
    December 11, 2017 at 5:11am

    Hi Dave,

    Thanks for your prompt reply. I will keep you updated about my progress in LSAT. Regarding my question about whether a part-time JD is worth the time, I found an article: http://www.admissionsconsultants.com/lawschool/part_time_programs.asphighlighting the pros and cons. Do you agree that graduating from a part-time law school affects employment options? Maybe a workaround could be interning/taking up a clerical job at a lawyer’s office to gain the much needed experience.

  • Dave Killoran
    December 13, 2017 at 12:38am

    Hi Sumeru,

    I don’t have a position on this because there’s no data for it. the way the ABA requires data to be released doesn’t tell us about differing outcomes here (which that article admits), so it’s all speculation. They do rightly note that in many cases the employer might not know what program you were in–which is because your degree doesn’t say “Full time JD” or “Part Time JD.” It just says JD 🙂

    Personally, if someone is applying with a part-time degree and they worked during the day, I’m impressed–they had to work hard for that degree and really want it.

    Another big issue is that not all schools offer part time programs (as we’ve discussed), and so even if we had data it would be skewed.

    Thanks!

  • Stephanie
    May 03, 2018 at 7:34pm

    Hello David!
    I’m currently an undergraduate in Communications and Leadership Development and I’ve been recently looking into becoming a Lawyer. Your article gave me a lot of information that I was looking for but I’m still worried about not actually being in Pre law. Would that put me at a disadvantage if I were to actually get into law school? Also does the major I’m in currently matter if I wanted to become a lawyer specializing more specifically in Entertainment Law?

  • Dave Killoran
    May 03, 2018 at 8:10pm

    Hi Stephanie,

    Thanks for the question! You are NO disadvantage at all by not being prelaw. While your major does play a role, students who come in from “traditional” prelaw majors like Political science are actually at a slight disadvantage when compared to less common majors such as science. the reason is that law schools want diversity in every area, majors included. So, if all else is equal, they are more likely to take a 2nd biomedical engineering major over their 75th political science major. Does that make sense?

    The short answer is that you don’t need a particular major, and the less common your major is, the better. and the law you want to practice won’t matter unless you already have experience there (such as with IP Law).

    Please let me know if that helps. Thanks!

  • Rodney
    May 06, 2018 at 6:29pm

    Hey Dave! I loved your article. I’ve been considering taking the LSAT and going to law school for some time now and I wanted to know your thoughts on my current major. I’m currently double majoring in Philosophy and Political Science. I noticed that one of your previous answers expressed concern for the PS major saying it places students with that major at a disadvantage. Does having the philosophy major level out the disadvantage? Does the philosophy major put me at an advantage with the LSAT?

    Thanks

  • Dave Killoran
    May 06, 2018 at 9:26pm

    Hi Rodney,

    Thanks for the question! Just to be clear, there’s no issue at all with a policsci major; you aren’t hurt or disadvantaged by it! My point was that less common majors provide a very small bump in comparison. So, you aren’t hurt by the polisci major, nor helped by it.

    Philosophy is also a relatively common (or at least common enough not to be notable), and it won’t by itself be an advantage (although the double-major is a small boost). Philosophy is also another humanities major, and doubles in the humanities aren’t rare. The majors that “help” tend to be on the science side, since there are fewer of those.

    All that aside, I wouldn’t worry about your majors–they are fine 🙂 The real bonus is that as a Phil major, you’ve encountered the logic used by the test already, albeit in a slow moving rather unfocused manner (because you don’t get timed when pondering philosophical arguments but on the LSAT you are timed). This is a BIG advantage to you, and Phil majors as a group tend to score relatively well. See the following for more info there:

    http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2009/09/physics-math.html

    http://www.nationaljurist.com/prelaw/classics-philosophy-majors-do-best-…

    https://www.lsac.org/docs/default-source/data-(lsac-resources)-docs/2015-16_applicants-major.pdf

    So, you should be able to hit the ground running with the LSAT, and given how important this test is to applications, that’s a sizable advantage (note: you’ll have to make some adjustments for the format of the LSAT, but in my experience most philosophy majors are able to successfully make that switch).

    Please let me know if that helps. Thanks!

  • Diksha Kiran
    May 29, 2018 at 9:49am

    Hi Dave

    This is diksha here. I am currently a year 11 student studying in Auckland, New Zealand. when I finish high school I wanted to challenge myself and chose a profession that intrusts me, and I chose to become a lawyer. I am a little scared and nervous about studying law as a undergraduate student, I would like some advice on the surroundings of becoming a professional lawyer. I have read your pervious replies and researched about the lawyer careers but they didn’t help much. I want to know now so that i can prepare myself for what type of career i want to get into.

    Thank You

  • Dave Killoran
    May 29, 2018 at 4:16pm

    Hi Diksha,

    Thanks for the message! I admire your professional goals, and for you to be thinking like this about your career in year 11 is a great sign for your future success 🙂

    For now, you shouldn’t be scared about studying law. Your goal should be to enjoy the classes and do as well as possible in them. that will set you up for a career better than anything else at this point.

    It’s also the case that studying the law abroad vs studying in the US or Canada are two different experiences. In the US, students don’t study law until after graduating from university, whereas you have the option of studying while in uni. For the practice of NZ law, I don’t have much experience there, but you could turn to places like Reddit for insight. For example, this thread might help you: https://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/49fk3s/what_is_it_like_bein….

    You are already doing the best thing you can: thinking about your choices beforehand. If you work hard and put the same type of care into your studies, you’ll be successful no matter what.

    Good luck!

  • Mason M
    June 30, 2018 at 5:58pm

    Hi Dave,

    Thank you for this great article.

    I’m also a bit older and interested in returning to school to study law in Canada. I first went to university almost 10 years ago. Since then, I’ve done some community college courses (I left my program because I got hired in my field) and most recently have earned a few university credits (as part of a certificate that I’m still working on part-time). My first time at university, I did terribly! I was dealing with some health issues so have a couple mediocre grades and a couple failed credits. During my more recent time in academia I got great grades, though. Can high a LSAT score help me recover from my early poor academic performance?

    I’m worried that my non-linear path will make me look like a dabbler. How do I make sure I am taken seriously in my application?

    Thank you so much!

  • Dave Killoran
    June 30, 2018 at 6:13pm

    Hi Mason,

    Thanks for the question! Yes, a high LSAT score can counterbalanceyour GPA, and it would make you what is known as a splitter: https://blog.powerscore.com/lsat/what-are-law-school-splitters-reverse-s…

    Splitters can do very well in admissions, and some schools tend to be more splitter-friendly than others: https://blog.powerscore.com/lsat/which-law-schools-are-splitter-friendly

    the key for you will be to post as high as an LSAT score as possible, and then to write an addendum explaining what happened with your grades (and your story is a common one, so they will understand it).

    As for the “dabbler” part, that depends on how your career path went, and how well the pieces relate to each other. there’s nothing wrong with dabbling per se, as long as it’s clear that your commitment to law is strong, which could be done through your personal statement and Letters of Rec (LORs).

    Please let me know if that helps. Thanks!

  • L B
    September 28, 2018 at 10:47am

    Hi Dave,

    your comment section looks cheesy and hand-selected.

    Have a great day.
    Sincerely,
    LB

  • Dave Killoran
    September 28, 2018 at 3:25pm

    Hi LB,

    Thanks for the comment! It may seem that way, but it’s not hand-selected–any comments that come in get posted and responded to (like yours 🙂

    Thanks!

  • Mohammed
    October 22, 2018 at 8:26pm

    Hey Dave,

    I graduated this past June with my BA in Political Science; minor in Islamic World Studies. I left school a little unsure of my next step, but I have decided kind of late that applying to law school is a chance that I am willing to take. I have not taken my LSATs yet but plan to in the near future. November is fast approaching and I assume so are the application deadlines for most schools. Is this year lost for me in terms of applying to schools to attend next Fall?

    Thank you

  • Dave Killoran
    October 22, 2018 at 9:09pm

    Hi Mohammed,

    No, all is not lost 🙂 Every school accepts the January LSAT results. See here for exact info on each school: https://blog.powerscore.com/lsat/which-lsat-should-i-take-for-a-fall-201…

    So, you are fine for January, and in many cases, later as well!

    Good luck!

  • Bina Israel
    November 23, 2018 at 3:04am

    Hi Dave, I’m a 51 year old and I’m seriously considering law school. I have my BS in Legal Studies and I’m looking into enrolling in a part-time program. How much time should I expect to devote to studies, especially during the 1st year? I will have to work to maintain a living.

  • Dave Killoran
    November 24, 2018 at 11:38pm

    Hi Bina,

    Thanks for the message! It varies from person to person, but the workload is not insignificant. Classes are usually at least from around 6 PM to 8 PM each night (Mon – Thu/Fri), with some nights going longer. Outside of class you will be looking at least 1.5-3 hours of homework for each class hour, so about 12-30 additional hours, depending on the program specifics. So, a LOT of work!

    Your best move now would be to call the law schools that interest you and talk to them about their part-time/evening programs./ they can give you an exact sense of what they think is typically required 🙂

    The good news: you can keep your current job in a part-time program; that’s what they are designed for!

    Please let me know if that helps!

  • wide thomas
    February 16, 2019 at 4:19am

    hi Dave,
    This article was very thoughtful of you and the comments inspiring.
    My goal is to attend LAw School after getting my B.A in Psychology in two more years. I am an International student and my first language is French which means that I had to learn English in my first two years in the U.S. I am a driven person, and I love a challenge. I am always pushing myself to the next level. I am thinking about taking the LSAT by the end of this year (2019), and i’d love to have your advice on how do you think a international student can do in this exam.
    Sincerely,
    W.T.

  • Dave Killoran
    February 18, 2019 at 6:54pm

    Hi WT,

    Thanks for the question! I’ve seen many international students do extremely well on the LSAT, so it’s certainly possible! There are two challenges for you:

    1. The language barrier. This can be tough since the LSAT demands a strong English language facility. Their questions often depend on nuance and interpretation, which can be tough for English second language speakers. however, you’ve clearly worked hard already, and so if you continue on, this bis something you will get better at. Your focus has to be on learning the language of the LSAT, in particular.

    2. The standardized test unfamiliarity. Most international students are used to essay test and so the multiple-choice format of the LSAT can be uncomfortable. It takes time to overcome this, but you can get past it!

    It’s all about hard work and familiarity, so I would recommend starting your prep sooner rather than later. Read up on the test, do as many practice tests as possible, and work steadily. You can get there!

  • Lowniece Horton
    March 05, 2019 at 5:35am

    Thank You for all your great information. I am 52 years old. I’ve had a successful life so far. I owned two businesses. My first business was a daycare. I owned twenty three one half years. My second business was a restaurant. Grandy’s franchise. I had a business partner, did not work.

    This is what inspired me wanting to become an attorney. I had to sue in order to get my partner out of the business. He was the operator I was the financial investor. I hired six attorneys in a year and a half not one was any good. I spent over $250,000 in attorney fees. The attorneys I hired had Very little work to do. My husband, son and I did all the research. I am so frustrated with attorneys I have dedicating my life into researching what I need to do in order to become an attorney. I was an average student. I’ve been out of school for 35 years. I have an associates in early childhood development, i’m retired. What would be your advice to me?

  • Dave Killoran
    March 05, 2019 at 8:16pm

    Hi Lowniece,

    Thanks for the message! The first place to start is with your degree. Law schools typically require a full 4-year degree to enter, and so you may need two more years of college in order to gain entrance to law school. After that, focus on your LSAT score. your grades and GPA are the two biggest factors in where you get in!

    Thanks and good luck!

Comments

  1. Jan says

    December 6, 2020 at 10:01 pm

    Dave id love to get a JD at an accredited law school. I majored in History but my GPA was only 2.3, school was not for me but when I was interested I excelled. What LSAT range should i try to get to to offset and is the interview a big part of it as well? Id love a second chance at school

    Reply
  2. Ryan says

    April 6, 2020 at 2:17 pm

    Hi Dave,

    I am currently a sophomore Material Science and Engineering major at a well known state university. A friend brought up the idea of patent attorney and I have been doing a lot of research into going to law school for this field. My only issue is when to take the LSAT as I have internships lined up for this summer and the following summer. Do applicants typically take a year after senior year to work and study for the exam? If not, I assume most students would study for the exam over the summer and take the October exam. But as I previously state, my internship would probably inhibit my studying. When would you recommend me taking it? Thanks again for the very informative article and previous replies to questions.

    Reply
  3. Kaylie says

    October 25, 2019 at 10:29 am

    Hello!

    I am a third year PoliSci student who has been interested in law for as long as I can remember. Though, the problem is that I am stuck averaging 79-84. Would you say these grades will even get me anywhere close to getting into law school? And more importantly, would you recommend law school or would my grades hint that I would be wasting my time as I may or may not perform well enough?

    Reply
  4. Ariel says

    September 16, 2019 at 1:35 pm

    Hi Dave,

    I’m registered to take the LSAT in a month and I don’t think I am quite ready. If I take the January LSAT, can I still apply for fall 2020 or will it be too late?

    Reply
    • Dave Killoran says

      September 16, 2019 at 1:50 pm

      Hi Ariel,

      January should be accepted by most law schools, and it won’t be too late! I’d check with the individual schools in question (a few T14s are trying to cut it off in November but I bet they realize few schools are following their lead), but prior to this shakeup of adding more LSAT dates, schools were taking the February LSAT regularly, and even the June LSAT. Last year we saw schools take July results (that’s right, for classes starting less than 2 months later). If you are a good candidate with solid a LSAT/GPA, you will get consideration and acceptances.

      Thanks!

      Reply
  5. G1 says

    August 28, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    Hey Dave,
    I’m from India & i m still in high school . I’ve chosen political science,Economics ,History & English as main subjects here .Along with these I’m doing maths too.
    I wish to go abroad after high school to pusue law .
    I got a good command over english language & is also good as an orator..will these abilities/talents do me any good in field of law? Secondly ..I’m ready to do any amount of hard work but what exactly i will have to do? & will it be worth it? .
    Looking forward for your response🙂.

    Reply
    • Dave Killoran says

      August 28, 2019 at 1:41 pm

      Hi G1,

      Yes, they will help you! Any study of the law will require excellent language and writing skills, and while not all legal positions require public speaking, many do. As to whether it’s worth it, that depends on you and the school you go to and how well you perform there. Top students from great law schools can do exceptionally well, but of course not everyone is a great law student or goes to a great school. In those cases, the outcomes really vary but all that is down to the work you do now. So, study hard and keep learning, and that will help you more than anything right now 🙂

      Good luck!

      Reply
  6. Gaby says

    August 18, 2019 at 5:11 am

    Hi Dave,

    I am a law student in England (doing my third year in october) and it has always been my dream to work as a lawyer in the US. I have never taken the LSAT before and i wanted to take the next one in england which is in October. Do you think there is enough time for me to study and be successful in the test ? Especially if i work by myself and without paying for a prep class ? In view of what I want to do later, UCLA law school would be one I’d want to go to but I know you need a result of at least 165 to be considered there. My school transcript is not the best as I had health issues during my time in school (though I have a really good second year, my first year thankfully not counting in my diploma grade) so would a good result at the LSAT help with that ? I tried a test from 2007 yesterday without ever practicing the LSAT and not really knowing what it would be and got roughly 143 but i am really aiming for the 160/170 as UCLA is a prestigious school. Also, is the essay writing part really important ?

    THank you for your time !

    Reply
    • Dave Killoran says

      August 18, 2019 at 5:12 pm

      Hi Gaby,

      Thanks for the message! My experience with students from England has been that they take a while to adjust to the multiple-choice format we often use here in the US. So, given that it is the middle of August and you are at a 143, it seems like an awfully steep hill to get to the upper 160s in two months. That said, you won’t know until you start, so I’d recommend getting going right now with your preparations and seeing how it progresses. You can certainly start with self-studying, but keep an eye on your progress and consider a course. It’s basically like trying to learn math on your own; sometimes it’s easier when you have a teacher, especially when you have such a short time to improve!

      The LSAT is the key here for you as it will offset your grades, so you do want to maximize your performance here. Also, the writing part is very minor 🙂

      Please let me know if that helps. Thanks!

      Reply
      • Gaby says

        August 19, 2019 at 11:46 am

        Thank you for your fast answer ! the multiple choice format is fine for me, it’s mostly the time. The LSAT questions are not too hard but the 35 minutes are what bothered me in the test. I choose the october test and i do realize it’s a very short time but if I am not happy with the results i can take it again in January meanwhile if I only take January and am not happy with the results, I will not be able to do anything about it.

        I have found a lot of books i am going to read and a lot of practice test and will train every day sections by sections and timing myself in hope to see progress and will probable try a full test every week/two weeks.

        thank you again for your answers, they were definitely helpful !

        Reply
        • Dave Killoran says

          August 19, 2019 at 6:35 pm

          Hi Gaby,

          Ok, that sounds good! See how it goes and let us know about your progress. Good luck!!

          Reply
  7. Believe Bubu Yao Pomeyie says

    May 27, 2019 at 4:41 pm

    Hi Dave,
    I am an international student from Ghana in US to write LSAT on June 3rd of this year. I have no materials to rely on. I just got hold of your article and it is inspiring.
    What materials will you recommend for me for this short period?

    Thanks

    Reply
    • Dave Killoran says

      May 28, 2019 at 7:50 pm

      Hi Believe,

      Get some LSAT PrepTests and do a few of those as soon as possible! That said, you aren’t properly prepared for a test this difficult, so if you do come back to re-prep, let us know–there are many more materials you should access.

      Good luck!

      Reply
  8. Aqsa says

    May 5, 2019 at 7:08 am

    Hi Dave,

    I came across your article as soon as I started searching about JD. I have BSc in Information Systems and MSc in Data Science. I have been thinking about studying Law since a while now. I found JD/MI Combined Programs, but I am a bit confused if taking MI again would be of any help.. I don’t have any specific knowledge of Law but am interested in Data Science and Law together (possible lawyer-data scientist hybrid).

    What would be your advice?

    Reply
    • Dave Killoran says

      May 7, 2019 at 4:43 pm

      Hi Aqsa,

      Thanks for the question! This is a tough one for me to answer personally but I do have advice as to how to get the best answer 🙂

      As far as law school degrees, I’m very familiar, but the specialized nature of JD/MI is an area I know less about since there aren’t all that many schools offering that specific program. So, I would suggest you reach out to contacts in the field and ask about the the impact of the difference of having the MI. You already have the BSc, and I suspect the MI helps a bit there but it well may not be a significant enough difference to justify the extra time and money at school.

      Sorry I can’t be more helpful, but thanks and good luck!

      Reply

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